B1825
DTC B1825, B1850, B1860, B2105, B2355, B2365, or B2375
Diagnostic Instructions
* Perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle (Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle) prior to using this diagnostic procedure.
* Review Strategy Based Diagnosis (Strategy Based Diagnosis) for an overview of the diagnostic approach.
* Diagnostic Procedure Instructions (Diagnostic Procedure Instructions) provides an overview of each diagnostic category.
DTC Descriptors
DTC B1825 01
- Seat Recline Position Sensor Circuit Short to Battery
DTC B1825 06
- Seat Recline Position Sensor Circuit Short to Ground or Open
DTC B1825 5A
- Seat Recline Position Sensor Circuit Plausibility Failure
DTC B1850 01
- Left Seat Lumbar Horizontal Position Sensor Circuit Short to Battery
DTC B1850 06
- Left Seat Lumbar Horizontal Position Sensor Circuit Short to Ground or Open
DTC B1850 5A
- Left Seat Lumbar Horizontal Position Sensor Circuit Plausibility Failure
DTC B1860 01
- Left Seat Lumbar Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Short to Battery
DTC B1860 06
- Left Seat Lumbar Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Short to Ground or Open
DTC B1860 5A
- Left Seat Lumbar Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Plausibility Failure
DTC B2105 01
- Right Front Seat Lumbar Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Short to Battery
DTC B2105 06
- Right Front Seat Lumbar Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Short to Ground or Open
DTC B2355 01
- Left Seat Front Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Short to Battery
DTC B2355 06
- Left Seat Front Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Short to Ground or Open
DTC B2355 5A
- Left Seat Front Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Plausibility Failure
DTC B2365 01
- Left Seat Rear Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Short to Battery
DTC B2365 06
- Left Seat Rear Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Short to Ground or Open
DTC B2365 5A
- Left Seat Rear Vertical Position Sensor Circuit Plausibility Failure
DTC B2375 01
- Left Seat Assembly Horizontal Position Sensor Circuit Short to Battery
DTC B2375 06
- Left Seat Assembly Horizontal Position Sensor Circuit Short to Ground or Open
DTC B2375 5A
- Left Seat Assembly Horizontal Position Sensor Circuit Plausibility Failure
Diagnostic Fault Information
Circuit Description
The position sensor that sets this diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is either attached to the seat directional motor drive cable or directly to the motor it monitors. It receives a 5-volt reference and ground from the memory seat module (MSM). The sensor sends a voltage signal that varies with the movement of the seat through the signal circuit to the MSM. Then based on this voltage signal, the MSM determines the position of the seat.
Conditions for Running the DTC
The MSM must be powered.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
B1825 01, B1850 01, B1860 01, B2105 01, B2355 01, B2365 01, B2375 01
If the MSM sees the analog input from this sensor is greater than 4.75 volts, the sensor will be considered out of range and the MSM will set this DTC.
B1825 06, B1850 06, B1860 06, B2105 06, B2355 06, B2365 06, B2375 06
If the MSM sees the analog input from this sensor is less than 0.22 volt, the sensor will be considered out of range and the MSM will set this DTC.
B1825 5A, B1850 5A, B1860 5A, B2105 5A, B2355 5A, B2365 5A, B2375 5A
This DTC will set, if the MSM is controlling a motor in one direction and it's position sensor is tracking the motor in the opposite direction. The sensor is either mounted or wired incorrectly, or the polarity of the motor control circuits are reversed.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
All memory recall and seat massage functions will be disabled.
Conditions for Clearing the DTC
* The current DTC will clear and set to history, when the MSM sees the analog input from the sensor as between 0.22 volts and 4.75 volts and the power mode changes to OFF then back to ACC or RUN.
* The history DTC will clear after 50 consecutive fault-free ignition cycles have occurred.
Diagnostic Aids
* The scan tool may reference the Memory Seat Module as the Driver Position Module.
* All position sensors use common ground and 5-volt reference circuits.
* If the 5-volt reference circuit is shorted to voltage multiple position sensor codes will set.
* If the 5-volt reference circuit is shorted to ground multiple position sensor codes will set.
* If the sensor ground circuit is open multiple codes will set.
Reference Information
Schematic Reference
* Driver Seat Schematics (Driver Seat Schematics)
* Passenger Seat Schematics (Passenger Seat Schematics)
Connector End View Reference
Component Connector End Views (Connector Views)
Description and Operation
* Memory Seats Description and Operation (Memory Seats)
* Lumbar Support Description and Operation (Without Memory A45) (Lumbar Support Description and Operation (Without Memory A45))Lumbar Support Description and Operation (With Massaging Lumbar AM3) (Lumbar Support Description and Operation (With Massaging Lumbar AM3))Lumbar Support Description and Operation (With Memory A45) (Lumbar Support Description and Operation (With Memory A45))
Electrical Information Reference
* Circuit Testing (Circuit Testing)
* Connector Repairs (Connector Repairs)
* Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections (Testing For Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections)
* Wiring Repairs (Wiring Repairs)
Scan Tool Reference
Control Module References (Programming and Relearning) for scan tool information
Circuit/System Verification
Ignition ON, observe the scan tool Driver Position Module, Driver Seat and Lumbar position sensor parameters. The readings should be between 0.22 volts and 4.75 volts and change while adjusting seat and lumbar positions.
Circuit/System Testing
B1825 01, or B1825 06
1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the X2 harness connector at the driver seat recline motor.
2. Test for less than 2 ohms between the low reference circuit terminal 3 and ground.
• If greater than the specified range, test the low reference circuit for an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
3. Ignition ON, test for 4.8-5.2 volts between the 5-volt reference circuit terminal 1 and ground.
• If less than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
• If greater than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
4. Verify the scan tool Driver Seat Recline Sensor parameter is less than 1 volt.
• If greater than the specified range, test the signal circuit terminal 2 for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
5. Install a 3A fused jumper wire between the signal circuit terminal 2 and the 5-volt reference circuit terminal 1. Verify the scan tool Driver Seat Recline Sensor parameter is greater than 4.75 volts.
• If less than the specified range, test the signal circuit for short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
6. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the seat recline position sensor.
B2355 01, B2355 06, B2365 01, B2365 06, B2375 01, or B2375 06
1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the X2 harness connector at the driver seat adjuster motor assembly.
2. Test for less than 2 ohms between the low reference circuit terminal 2 and ground.
• If greater than the specified range, test the low reference circuit for an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
3. Ignition ON, test for 4.8-5.2 volts between the 5-volt reference circuit terminal 6 and ground.
• If less than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
• If greater than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
4. Verify the appropriate scan tool driver seat sensor parameter listed below is less than 1 volt.
* Driver Seat Front Vertical Sensor
* Driver Seat Rear Vertical Sensor
* Driver Seat Horizontal Sensor
• If greater than the specified range, test the appropriate signal circuit listed below for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
* Seat front vertical position sensor terminal 1
* Seat rear vertical position sensor terminal 5
* Seat horizontal position sensor terminal 3
5. Install a 3A fused jumper wire between the 5-volt reference circuit terminal 6 and the appropriate signal circuit listed below:
* Seat front vertical position sensor terminal 1
* Seat rear vertical position sensor terminal 5
* Seat horizontal position sensor terminal 3
6. Verify the appropriate scan tool driver seat position sensor parameter listed below is greater than 4.75 volts:
* Driver Seat Front Vertical Sensor
* Driver Seat Rear Vertical Sensor
* Driver Seat Horizontal Sensor
• If less than the specified value, test the signal circuit for short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
7. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the seat adjuster motor assembly.
B1850 01, B1850 05, B1860 01, B1860 05, B2105 01, or B2105 05
1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the appropriate seat lumbar motor position sensor.
2. Test for less than 2 ohms between the appropriate low reference circuit listed below and ground:
* Driver seat lumbar vertical sensor terminal 1
* Driver seat lumbar horizontal sensor terminal 3
* Passenger seat lumbar vertical sensor terminal A X353
• If greater than the specified range, test the low reference circuit for an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
3. Ignition ON, test for 4.8-5.2 volts between the appropriate 5-volt reference circuit listed below and ground:
* Driver seat lumbar vertical sensor terminal 3
* Driver seat lumbar horizontal sensor terminal 1
* Passenger seat lumbar vertical sensor terminal C X353
• If less than the specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
• If greater than specified range, test the 5-volt reference circuit for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
4. Verify the appropriate scan tool Seat 1 Info or Seat 2 Info lumbar sensor parameter listed below is less than 1 volt:
* Lumbar Horizontal Sensor
* Lumbar Vertical Sensor
• If greater than the specified range, test the appropriate signal circuit listed below for a short to voltage. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
* Driver seat lumbar vertical sensor terminal 2
* Driver seat lumbar horizontal sensor terminal 2
* Passenger seat lumbar vertical sensor terminal B X353
5. Install a 3A fused jumper wire between the appropriate signal circuit and the 5-volt reference circuit listed below:
* Driver seat lumbar vertical sensor terminal 2 and terminal 3
* Driver seat lumbar horizontal sensor terminal 2 and terminal 1
* Passenger seat lumbar vertical sensor terminal B X353 and terminal C X353
6. Verify the appropriate scan tool Seat 1 Info or Seat 2 Info lumbar sensor parameter listed below is greater than 4.75 volts:
* Lumbar Horizontal Sensor
* Lumbar Vertical Sensor
• If less than the specified range, test the signal circuit for short to ground or an open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the MSM.
7. If all circuits test normal, test or replace the lumbar motor assembly.
Repair Instructions
Perform the Diagnostic Repair Verification (Verification Tests) after completing the diagnostic procedure.
* Front Seat Adjuster Replacement (Front Seat Adjuster Replacement)
* Front Seat Recliner Position Sensor Replacement (Service and Repair)
* Driver or Passenger Seat Lumbar Support Replacement (w/AL2) (Driver or Passenger Seat Lumbar Support Replacement (W/AL2))Driver or Passenger Seat Lumbar Support Replacement (w/AM3) (Driver or Passenger Seat Lumbar Support Replacement (W/AM3))
* Control Module References (Programming and Relearning) for MSM replacement, setup, and programming